Aug 7, 2021 • 1HR 8M

Learning Stoicism: A Systematic Approach to Stoic Praxis

The 4885 Stoic Learning System Revealed

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Jon Brooks
Modern practical breakdowns of the best ideas in ancient Stoicism

I was recently asked to give a Stoicism talk by Peter Limberg on The Stoa.

This episode contains that entire talk.

But before I get into the workshop description…

I just want to give a shout out to Peter, who hosts regular epic workshops and discussions by fascinating thinkers, for free.

Peter describes The Stoa as follows:

The Stoa is not a school, think tank, clinic, or commune, and it is definitely not a fucking YouTube channel. The Stoa is a stewarded daemonic fire—on an obscure hill in the noosphere—serving as a beacon to find the others. It is a surprise, for those who have become weary of the endless pressure to know. It is also a portal, to a new world. A world that you might have stopped believing in, but have always been secretly longing for.

Peter Limberg

In my workshop, I reveal the system I use for both myself and my students in Askesis to learn Stoicism.

Introducing The 4885 System

Stoicism is quite large, and life is messy. Knowing when to apply Stoicism, how to apply it, and what to focus on is tricky. I call this the complexity problem.

To overcome that problem, I’ve devised the 4885 System. It’s broken down as follows:

  • 4 Skill Categories

  • 8 Critical Skills

  • 8 Core Principles

  • 5 Learning Methods

When these are all combined and integrated, Stoicism becomes embodied—and this is the goal… embodied Stoicism. Not just concepts.

The the more visually inclined, you can also watch the video here with slides:

P.S. If you’d like to learn more about working with me directly, reply to this email.